How good are the new vehicles in the Biker update really?
Oct 5, 2016 16:48:11 GMT 1
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Post by realCrumbleYbutt on Oct 5, 2016 16:48:11 GMT 1
Okay so this is going to largely based on very rough and rushed testing parameters but I still think it'll have some relevance for anyone either wondering what the best bikes/vehicles are overall, or trying to get in to GTA biking in general.
Firstly i should say that all testing has been done on the Rockstar Version of the track 'Cutting Coroners' just like all of my testing always has been, and is in no way comparable to Broughy1322's similar tests on his own version of the track, also all testing was done with stock vehicles and so lap times are largely irrelevant and only used for organising the new vehicles from fastest to slowest, all testing was done with a combination of both wheelying and leaning forward for the purpose of testing the versatility of the vehicles, all testing was rushed (3 laps) and doesn't necessarily accurately reflect the peak performance of the fully upgraded counterpart to each vehicle, this testing is more about general pace than best lap times and will include constructive (and largely opinion based) criticisms of each vehicle's individual driving style.
So let's get into some numbers!
Stock Bike Lap Times (Some older vehicles that are not from this update have also been tested for comparison)
0.52.000 - hakuchou drag
0.57.000 - defiler
0.58.000 - nightblade
0.58.000 - gargoyle
0.59.000 - cliffhanger
0.59.000 - manchez
1.01.000 - innovation
1.01.000 - sovereign
1.03.000 - chimera
1.04.000 - daemon
1.04.000 - zombie bobber
1.05.000 - zombie chopper
1.06.000 - avarus
1.11.000 - bagger
1.12.000 - rat bike
1.15.000 - wolfsbane
1.20.000 - faggio sport
1.24.000 - faggio mod
So that's my general perspective on where each vehicle sits in an order of Fastest to Slowest, and yes these are so far only the vehicles from the Motorcycles class, more vehicles may well be added as and when they are released/as and when I get around to testing them, this will likely also include the fully modded counterparts if there is an interest.
CRITICISMS!!
First up is the Hakuchou Drag, a great new bike overall and the official new fastest bike in GTA, extremely quick in a straight line and interestingly enough it benefits more from leaning forward than it does from wheelying, more testing will be done in the next few weeks to try to determine exactly why this is, and how much (if at all) it impacts other bikes in the game, my only negative comment on this bike is it's not as manageable in the corners as the old Hakuchou we know and love, but overall a nice addition to GTA.
Next up is the Nightblade & the Gargoyle, "But why are we talking about the Gargoyle in this thread?" well as i stated earlier, i included testing for other noteable bikes already here before the Biker update for reference and comparison, and i was surprised at how well both bikes got around the track, usually american 'sit up and beg' style bikes in gta are a hand full in the corners (more on that later!) and so lack the ability to make up the time on the newer and better balanced 'super-bike' style bikes, but with these two that was hardly the case at all, both bikes manage to get around the track very well and are very close both on pace and riding style, definitely two of the bikes i've been most impressed with in this update so far.
The Chimera! What a strange vehicle this is, i mean not that 'Trikes' are that weird, we've all probably seen one once or twice, but what i'm talking about here is how odd an addition to GTA it is in terms of game mechanics, the thing handles like some kind of sketchy combination between an oversteery sports car or super-car, and a Rat-Truck, and i am looking forward to mastering this strange creation.
As for the 2 Zombie bikes, The Bobber and the Chopper, they both felt like variations of the Daemon to me and i do enjoy the Daemon! Both bikes have improved sound and visuals over the Deamon though and each has it's own individual feel, the Bobber for me feels like the more balanced of the two with great handling and adequate pace on the straights, the Chopper however was a different story, it feels more bulky and a little cumbersome in the corners but slightly better on the straights, overall though i think the Bobber is the choice for me.
Rat bike & Wolfsbane, both of these are a little disappointing if i'm honest, they look good and if you're in to WWII era bikes and roleplaying then maybe these are for you, but they seem to have suspension problems, especially when leaning forward or mounting curbs, understeer is a big problem with these bikes which is a bit of a shame.
Faggio Sport & Faggio Mod, great little additions to the game, even though they are slow they seem faster and more manourerable than the standard Faggio, they corner like they're on rails and i enjoyed them a lot.
That's about all there is to say on what i've tested so far, i will try to keep updating this thread with other relevant information.
Firstly i should say that all testing has been done on the Rockstar Version of the track 'Cutting Coroners' just like all of my testing always has been, and is in no way comparable to Broughy1322's similar tests on his own version of the track, also all testing was done with stock vehicles and so lap times are largely irrelevant and only used for organising the new vehicles from fastest to slowest, all testing was done with a combination of both wheelying and leaning forward for the purpose of testing the versatility of the vehicles, all testing was rushed (3 laps) and doesn't necessarily accurately reflect the peak performance of the fully upgraded counterpart to each vehicle, this testing is more about general pace than best lap times and will include constructive (and largely opinion based) criticisms of each vehicle's individual driving style.
So let's get into some numbers!
Stock Bike Lap Times (Some older vehicles that are not from this update have also been tested for comparison)
0.52.000 - hakuchou drag
0.57.000 - defiler
0.58.000 - nightblade
0.58.000 - gargoyle
0.59.000 - cliffhanger
0.59.000 - manchez
1.01.000 - innovation
1.01.000 - sovereign
1.03.000 - chimera
1.04.000 - daemon
1.04.000 - zombie bobber
1.05.000 - zombie chopper
1.06.000 - avarus
1.11.000 - bagger
1.12.000 - rat bike
1.15.000 - wolfsbane
1.20.000 - faggio sport
1.24.000 - faggio mod
So that's my general perspective on where each vehicle sits in an order of Fastest to Slowest, and yes these are so far only the vehicles from the Motorcycles class, more vehicles may well be added as and when they are released/as and when I get around to testing them, this will likely also include the fully modded counterparts if there is an interest.
CRITICISMS!!
First up is the Hakuchou Drag, a great new bike overall and the official new fastest bike in GTA, extremely quick in a straight line and interestingly enough it benefits more from leaning forward than it does from wheelying, more testing will be done in the next few weeks to try to determine exactly why this is, and how much (if at all) it impacts other bikes in the game, my only negative comment on this bike is it's not as manageable in the corners as the old Hakuchou we know and love, but overall a nice addition to GTA.
Next up is the Nightblade & the Gargoyle, "But why are we talking about the Gargoyle in this thread?" well as i stated earlier, i included testing for other noteable bikes already here before the Biker update for reference and comparison, and i was surprised at how well both bikes got around the track, usually american 'sit up and beg' style bikes in gta are a hand full in the corners (more on that later!) and so lack the ability to make up the time on the newer and better balanced 'super-bike' style bikes, but with these two that was hardly the case at all, both bikes manage to get around the track very well and are very close both on pace and riding style, definitely two of the bikes i've been most impressed with in this update so far.
The Chimera! What a strange vehicle this is, i mean not that 'Trikes' are that weird, we've all probably seen one once or twice, but what i'm talking about here is how odd an addition to GTA it is in terms of game mechanics, the thing handles like some kind of sketchy combination between an oversteery sports car or super-car, and a Rat-Truck, and i am looking forward to mastering this strange creation.
As for the 2 Zombie bikes, The Bobber and the Chopper, they both felt like variations of the Daemon to me and i do enjoy the Daemon! Both bikes have improved sound and visuals over the Deamon though and each has it's own individual feel, the Bobber for me feels like the more balanced of the two with great handling and adequate pace on the straights, the Chopper however was a different story, it feels more bulky and a little cumbersome in the corners but slightly better on the straights, overall though i think the Bobber is the choice for me.
Rat bike & Wolfsbane, both of these are a little disappointing if i'm honest, they look good and if you're in to WWII era bikes and roleplaying then maybe these are for you, but they seem to have suspension problems, especially when leaning forward or mounting curbs, understeer is a big problem with these bikes which is a bit of a shame.
Faggio Sport & Faggio Mod, great little additions to the game, even though they are slow they seem faster and more manourerable than the standard Faggio, they corner like they're on rails and i enjoyed them a lot.
That's about all there is to say on what i've tested so far, i will try to keep updating this thread with other relevant information.